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Post by JCON on Jul 5, 2019 17:47:05 GMT -6
6 1/2 inches center hub front to center hub back... 3" wide on the front end and 3 1/2" wide on the duel back...  1/24th scale... |
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Post by Beekster on Jul 5, 2019 18:50:03 GMT -6
Perfect! That works out to the standard 156" wheelbase. The longer ones could be had by extending the frame, either by splicing a section from a second kit or using Evergreen stock. The 1926-28 AC 6x2 chassis appear to have had a choice of 156", 168", or 180" wheelbase, according to a fractured-English translation of a foreign web page I found that listed the dimensions in millimeters. My supposition here is that this foreign source is defining "wheelbase" as the distance between the front and forward set of rear wheels, rather than measuring to the center point between the duals. Why do I think this? The 6x2 trucks would have been most economically built by extending the frame rails aft and adding the tag axle, leaving the rest of the driveline intact and identical to the 4x2 versions of the truck. So a single Monogram kit is a perfect base for a military version from the Great War, if a dump truck or wrecker is desired. The standard cargo version would need only a bit of work to extend the frame and drive shaft, and a scratch-built bed. A civilian 6x2 would require two kits, and some creative thinking about what kind of truck to build. A bigger tanker would use two of those kits to do something like this:  A dump truck would need two of those:   Likewise, a flatbed or stake bed stuck would need a pair of the dump stake bed trucks, or one of those to use the bed parts as patterns for a longer scratch-built version and any other kit variant for the extra parts.  By scavenging parts from a more modern truck, a typical fifth-wheel tractor could be built. Even a wrecker, though a lot of scratch work would be required:  Note that this last old veteran was updated at some point with newer wheels and pneumatic tires, and an enclosed separate engine to power the winch. So many possibilities... |
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 19:22:06 GMT -6
I think it would be great if you would add one of those Macks so the two of them can compliment each other! These are some great pics of the old Mack trucks. Definitely unique!!
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Post by JCON on Jul 5, 2019 19:57:09 GMT -6
Glad it will work for you!!! I got my kit for $20... we negotiated it to that as he wanted twice that, lol!!!
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Post by Beekster on Jul 5, 2019 20:04:28 GMT -6
The first challenge is deciding what kind of project to tackle, beyond merely hijacking Joe's thread...
That wrecker looks enticing. It would require two Bulldog kits of one kind or another, plus a bunch of other bits. Some 1920s/30s car kit could provide a radiator on which to build the PTO motor housing. Working out the booms, winch drum, and rigging would be a real challenge. A period truck could retain the solid-tire wheels, but to do it like the one in the picture would require parts from some newer truck kit. A big project, for sure...much thinking to do, along with eBay trolling.
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Post by JCON on Jul 5, 2019 20:07:41 GMT -6
Hijack away brother, I will be honored to have you use this thread for your build also... just give me a new title when you are ready and I'll change it!!!
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Post by BUCKY on Jul 5, 2019 20:19:27 GMT -6
That wrecker would be a fabulous build!!
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Post by Beekster on Jul 6, 2019 9:28:44 GMT -6
No, Joe, we won't change the thread title. This project is yours; all I've added here is some fodder for inspiration of others (myself included) about what might be possible using these old kits. The wrecker would be a huge challenge, and a long project with an immense amount of scratch work involved. There's nothing out there in the way of other kits to cannibalize for the wrecker body; all of the available (and frightfully expensive!) kits in these 1/24-1/25 scales are much more modern. The image above looks like something done in the 1930s, probably on a later AP frame with six-cylinder engine and shaft drive, not chain drive. Radiator section looks wider, too, moving the hood forward. Can't really tell about the drive system because of the angle, and the wider pneumatic tires fitted. The wheels ought to be easy to get; probably scavenge from a parts kit of some fifties/sixties truck. The rest would be more difficult to deal with. I guess I need to renew my acquaintance with the BigMackTrucks forum and ask some questions about the AP trucks to clarify things mechanically. And make an offer on those two eBay kits...more later (maybe much later) on another thread.
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Post by JCON on Jul 6, 2019 10:18:40 GMT -6
No worries my friend, I have no problem sharing, my Momma taught me well!!! |
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Post by Beekster on Jul 6, 2019 16:20:09 GMT -6
Well, anything Mack AC that I do will go on the "sometime" pile of ideas for now. The vendor with two kits isn't interested in any more of a deal than combined shipping, so I'm not pulling the trigger right now for $72 for the pair all in. It's not like these kits are exactly rare, despite being out of production for a while now. There's going to be an antique truck show about 45 minutes drive away in Brooks, OR on August 23-24, so I'll go to that with camera in hand looking for an AC to shoot for reference and inspiration, along with anything else of 30s-40s vintage. If not a wrecker, then something else more or less home-built from that era; someone using an obsolete truck that could be had for cheap to do something they found useful. We shall see what develops as this percolates through my brain for a while. It's not like I don't have other projects that I need to finish first.
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Post by JED on Jul 10, 2019 0:21:36 GMT -6
A wrecker would look great,even an old abused one like the picture
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1/24th scale...
