cliffj (R.I.P.)
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Post by cliffj (R.I.P.) on Mar 11, 2018 11:38:54 GMT -6
I've got Dragons M4A2 Tarawa kit for the Pacific GB with the exhaust deflector and jerry can rack for the rear plate lined up from TMD and Formations so I'm set in that department, my question is, what shade of OD did the Marines use during that time period? Here's the color options from Mission Models... www.missionmodelsus.com/collections/allied-armor-usa
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Post by Beekster on Mar 11, 2018 11:53:08 GMT -6
The Marine tanks were delivered in the same OD finish as Army tanks, and among the paints shown Khaki Drab looks closest. Any camouflage colors applied would have come from Navy or SeaBee stocks, so trying to match to a good color image is your best bet there.
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Post by RLFoster on Mar 11, 2018 12:08:34 GMT -6
Something else you might want to consider, Cliff, is that while the base OD was the same, the environmental conditions were vastly different, particularly if the tank survived for very long. I know that a lot of modelers (myself included) frequently use a slightly darker OD base coat for Pacific Marine Corps tanks compared to their European brethren because the wet conditions seen in that theater could give all military vehicles a darker, less dusty appearance.
Just my 2 cents...
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Post by JCON on Mar 11, 2018 12:32:59 GMT -6
Excellent point Robert...
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Post by Beekster on Mar 11, 2018 16:09:39 GMT -6
To amplify Robert's point, it rained frequently in the Pacific...in many locations it could be daily or more often and usually for brief periods. Then the tropical sun would dry everything out again. This did tend to wash dust away rather regularly. Also, tanks in the Pacific often didn't get muddy like they did in the ETO. The sand and coral of the islands didn't react that way when wet. Damp material could pack into tracks, but you typically wouldn't see a tank completely slathered in filth. There were locations where tanks could wind up looking more like their European cousins, such as the Philippines or Okinawa, but those were largely Army shows.
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Post by Dukemaddog on Mar 12, 2018 13:59:26 GMT -6
True and those places in the Philippines and Okinawa where the tanks started looking like their European counterparts, typically were operating inland quite a bit where the soil conditions were much more like Europe.
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cliffj (R.I.P.)
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Post by cliffj (R.I.P.) on Mar 12, 2018 20:10:19 GMT -6
There are not too many photos of the tanks on Tarawa and they seem to be pretty well faded and dirty. Some pics show them in the US training but I don't think those are the tanks that went to Tarawa. Here's a couple of sites on them... tarawaontheweb.org/usmctank.htmwww.tanksontarawa.com/
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