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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 22, 2018 8:44:57 GMT -6
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 22, 2018 8:46:09 GMT -6
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Post by JCON on Sept 22, 2018 8:49:38 GMT -6
Cool panels!!!
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Post by BUCKY on Sept 22, 2018 10:45:41 GMT -6
What kind of aluminum are you using?
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 22, 2018 21:32:32 GMT -6
It's 0.3mm flashing as used in roofing. A link to the product here. www.bunnings.com.au/consolidated-alloys-300-x-0-3mm-x-10m-weatherflash_p1100457As you saw I was playing with panels again, this time a slightly larger door with a resemblance to a '50 dodge pickup door. First set of pics are from making the door frame. I tried to show a couple of the basic tools I use to manipulate the metal, pop sticks, pen, pliers, anything that fits the shape I'm trying to lay out. Mostly its an embossing technique of rubbing or pushing the metal around but with some plier action to fold and "shrink" a bit here and there. Later pics show the start of the door skin itself. I had quite a time trying to get the hump in the door profile to be somewhat correct. Didn't help I kept confusing myself with which way the taper went ..doh! It's all kind of an experiment to see how far I can go like this. I'd like to make a whole cab or car, more or less like a 1:1 production but I know its limited in what I can achieve realistically as I can't "weld" anything. Glue may work for some things but car panels are typically made from multiple parts that don't play fair when you try to make them in one piece like this. I'll keep pottering though.
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Post by JCON on Sept 22, 2018 21:48:21 GMT -6
It's cool to watch the process thank you!!!
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Post by BUCKY on Sept 22, 2018 23:23:28 GMT -6
It's cool to watch the process thank you!!! DITTO!!!
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 22, 2018 23:45:56 GMT -6
More details....
In the first two shots you see the early layout with just a couple center lines and a reference line for where the window frame would start. Then an outline of the panel was marked to get proportions (without any real measurements involved) to end up with something that looked like a door in roughly 1/16 scale. Pop sticks/tongue depressors, craft sticks or whatever you like to call them, are great tools for this as the wood slides over the metal with minimal marking and can provide a lot of different shapes as you hold them various ways. With the edge a fold line was embossed to make the edge want to fold where I wanted. Pliers used to tip the edge up and manipulate the curved bottom corners. You can see how one side is awkwardly half done but when you complete the second fold for the edge of the frame, the metal settled down and made the shape I wanted.
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 22, 2018 23:53:47 GMT -6
In this pic you can see how I use the stick on the flat, in a back and forth stroke along the face of the panel to smooth the metal out. This works very similar to an English wheel with a big panel. Depending how much you work the metal you can just smooth or create deep curves. What I'm doing there is making the step in the frame with the other stick under the metal and pushing the panel down beside it. You end up with a "Z" shaped profile by doing this. Creates door jambs or detail lines, or can be used as a way to stretch the metal for deep curves. The outer flange was smoothed on top of the extra stick as the shape was made and refined.
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 23, 2018 0:04:02 GMT -6
In these two, I'm forming the window frame. That blue stuff behind shot is a foam offcut. With that under the panel, I gently work the inner edge of the window opening to push the metal down and stretch it to form the other flange. A Sharpie pen has some useful shapes on it, just happened to be the right size to make the frame profile smooth buy running back and forth in the groove. From there it was details. Adding lines and shapes to the lower door frame that resembled the inside face of the door. I have a block that I used to make corrugated iron, lots of grooves carved in to it, with a stick rubbed back along the grooves I can make lines that looke like beads you'd make on the beadroller.
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Post by BUCKY on Sept 23, 2018 0:04:13 GMT -6
Great methods for scale metal working! Do you do any work with brass?
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Post by JCON on Sept 23, 2018 0:09:50 GMT -6
Very cool indeed!!!
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 23, 2018 0:09:57 GMT -6
Great methods for scale metal working! Do you do any work with brass? Thanks, hopefully my pics/explanations make sense and make this stuff a bit easier for others to try. I have an advantage as this is what I do for a living too but it doesn't always translate in scale.
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 23, 2018 0:13:23 GMT -6
Oops, I'm tired.. meant to say that I haven't played with brass much other than attempted a chassis for a small scale RC pickup. It kinda worked but my solder joints failed a few times.
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Post by JCON on Sept 23, 2018 0:14:27 GMT -6
Go to bed, lol!!! I am headed to mine now!!!
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Post by 2redrovers on Sept 23, 2018 0:15:56 GMT -6
Go to bed, lol!!! I am headed to mine now!!! I wish! Its 4:15pm here and I'm in the middle of rearranging my resto workshop. No rest for the self employed lol
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Post by JCON on Sept 23, 2018 0:16:15 GMT -6
Goodnight gentlemen, pleasant dreams of styrene, paint and glue!!!
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Post by JCON on Sept 23, 2018 0:17:27 GMT -6
11:16 PM here and 1:16AM where Bucky is, he really should be in bed!!!
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Post by BUCKY on Sept 23, 2018 0:35:50 GMT -6
I am!! Trouble is... there's extra room in this king size bed for this 7" tablet!!
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Post by JCON on Sept 23, 2018 9:55:41 GMT -6
That is why electronics don't go into our bedroom!!! Not even our phones go in there... off limits unless you are sick in bed and then only in the daytime hours...
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